Ricky Gervais on offence, anger and infuriating Hollywood: ‘You have to provoke. It’s a good thing’ | Ricky Gervais

Ricky Gervais’s assistant leads me previous a enormous, empty room to the highest ground of an workplace above a store on a swanky London excessive avenue. Gervais is sitting behind a desk at his laptop in one other enormous, empty room, and appears to be like as if he’s simply squatted the place. There’s nothing that implies that is his workplace, aside from the branded mugs sitting on his desk; one reveals his face, the second says Tambury Gazette, the fictional newspaper the place Gervais’s character, Tony, works in his hit Netflix sequence After Life.

As quickly as he sees me, he swings his legs off the ground and on to the desk. I count on him to say, “Proper, shoot”, as his fabulous fictional creation David Brent may have carried out, however he reins himself in. It’s 20 years since Gervais made his title with The Workplace, and it’s typically been tough to know the place Brent ends and Gervais begins.

Gervais, who’s sporting his customary black T-shirt, tracksuit bottoms and trainers, gestures to a bottle of water on my aspect of the desk. “That’s for you,” he says magnanimously. I ask how he has modified since making The Workplace. “Folks usually assume wealth and fame change you, however I don’t assume they have, as a result of by the point you’re 40 you already know who you’re. I don’t assume they’d change a 40-year-old like a 20-year-old.” The Workplace has been remade in 11 completely different nations, netting him a fortune within the course of. How a lot is he price as of late? “Oh come on! Fuckkkkkin hell,” he squeals in protest. He appears to be like offended for a good second.I’m positive there’s a information story that tells you. I’m doing all proper. However I don’t need to be in print telling you ways a lot I’ve acquired.” It’s traditional Brent. Gervais is price an estimated £105m.

The trailer for season three of After Life

He’s having fun with his best success since The Workplace and Extras, the TV comedy about background actors that featured actual stars taking part in themselves in an unflattering mild. As Gervais is fast to level out, After Life was essentially the most watched British comedy on this planet up to now decade, having been seen by greater than 85 million individuals. And, as he’s equally fast to level out, the sequence through which he performs Tony, a grieving widower, has moved many viewers to tears. Go to his Twitter account, the place he has 14.5 million followers, and you’ll discover infinite retweets praising it, and his many different tasks: “Have simply watched #AfterLife for the fourth time now and @rickygervais nonetheless makes me cry”, “#AfterLife is one of the best comedy sequence I ever watched.” When not posting about his reveals on social media, Gervais tweets pictures of animals, and reminds us to be form to one another. Kindness is his massive factor as of late. If he could make the world care a little extra, he feels he’s carried out a respectable day’s work.

On the similar time, he’s additionally come to be thought to be a scourge of “wokedom”. Final yr he stated: “There’s this new bizarre type of fascism of individuals considering they know what you may say and what you may’t.” In October, he advised neuroscientist and author Sam Harris: “I need to reside lengthy sufficient to see the youthful era not be woke sufficient for the following era. It’s going to occur. Don’t they realise that, it’s like, they’re subsequent.”

It’s by no means been simple to pin down Gervais. Not least as a result of he says that feedback made in jest are too typically taken actually. After stories suggesting that he believed The Workplace can be a sufferer of cancel tradition at present, he tweeted a clarification: “Somebody stated they may attempt to cancel it in the future, and I stated, ‘Good, allow them to cancel it. I’ve been paid!’ Clearly a joke.”

This stress between the kindly and the cantankerous – which appears to be on full show at present – can be on the coronary heart of After Life. Tony is a lovable louse or an odious do-gooder relying on your perspective.

Tony works for a native newspaper writing corny options and is inconsolable after shedding his spouse, Lisa, to most cancers. Sooner or later in each episode we see him watching outdated movies on his laptop of the fantastic occasions they’d collectively – taking part in sensible jokes on one another, watching films, consuming, taking part in with their canine, strolling, laughing. They didn’t want different individuals or youngsters as a result of they accomplished one another. And when she died, he was left with nothing however the canine, Brandy, for consolation. He contemplates suicide as a result of life is so meaningless. However as an alternative he decides to inform all people what he actually thinks of them, and calls it his superpower. If all of it goes flawed ultimately, he tells himself, he can nonetheless kill himself.

It’s a MacGuffin that permits him to indulge a acquainted Gervaisian trope – undiluted rudeness. His superpower typically includes telling individuals they’re fats. Within the first episode, he calls a stranger a “fats, furry, nosy cocksucker”, a youngster a “tubby little ginger cunt”, and his colleague “fats boy”. In the meantime, in a video recorded earlier than her loss of life, Lisa (no stranger to truth-telling herself) calls Tony a “fats, lazy, self-pitying lump” and a “fats twat”.

Now Gervais is about to launch the third sequence of After Life – a first for him as a result of he has by no means made greater than two sequence of any of his TV sitcoms. Tony has advanced, and has found the bounds of nihilistic nastiness. Kindness is starting to get the higher of him. The supporting characters in After Life continuously inform Tony how form and humorous he’s. He comes to realise that caring, quite than not caring, is a superpower. After Life is a potty-mouthed model of Frank Capra’s It’s A Fantastic Life. Like George Bailey, Tony is rescued from despair when he’s made conscious of how significantly better he has made the world for others.

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Whereas The Workplace was universally lauded, After Life has obtained blended notices – detractors have stated it’s closely signposted and saccharine, whereas followers have marvelled on the mixture of emotion and humour. I ask Gervais the way it happened. “With most issues I can keep in mind how I considered that joke and the way it developed,” he says. Already I’m confused – I had assumed that it began with the concept of loss and grief. “So I used to be on tour in March 2017 with my present Humanity, and I’ve nonetheless acquired that work ethic. I assumed, I’m staying in castles and being chauffeur-driven, and I really feel responsible about solely working an hour a day. So I assumed I ought to write one thing new.”

Gervais is mid-monologue. He doesn’t actually enable for interruptions. He simply talks until he runs out of steam, then asks what the query was. “Humanity was vaguely about free speech and the world altering. And I assumed, ‘Why will we fear about what individuals say?’ Effectively, we fear in regards to the penalties. However why will we fear in regards to the penalties? Effectively, since you need to be standard and you don’t need to damage individuals’s emotions. Effectively, what when you didn’t care, what when you had nothing to lose? I went, however why would you try this? Effectively, when you have been going to die or almost died. For those who have been going to kill your self, and you didn’t. What might have occurred to make you’re feeling that dangerous? Since you lose the love of your life. Why didn’t you kill your self? As a result of the canine was hungry.”

And there you have it: the genesis of After Life. Gervais comes to a cease, awed by his practice of thought. “That each one occurred in two minutes. After which the remainder is … ” He trails off, not wanting to resort to cliche.

Gervais, 60, was born in Studying to working-class dad and mom – a father who laboured on constructing websites, and a mom who did odd jobs whereas bringing him and his three siblings up. When he requested why there was such a hole between him and the opposite youngsters (he’s 17 years youthful than the oldest) his mom advised him he was a mistake. It made him snicker. She typically made him snicker. In the future, when he was up sooner than regular, she requested if it was as a result of he’d shat the mattress.

Issues got here too simply to him, he says, so he didn’t give his all – not at college, or work, or in his early days as a performer. “I used to be happy with passing exams with out attempting arduous. Now, I look again and assume, ‘Effectively you’re an fool; think about when you’d tried more durable.’” He began a course in biology at college, then swapped to philosophy as a result of it was a doss – seven hours a week as an alternative of 40. “I didn’t actually research for 3 years. I really feel a bit responsible about that, too.”

He was lazy, he says. He watched comics on TV, advised himself he was funnier than they have been, however by no means did something about it. The younger Gervais was a fairly boy who modelled himself on David Bowie and David Sylvian. In 1982, he shaped Seona Dancing, a new-wave duo, together with his greatest good friend, Invoice Macrae, and they acquired themselves a report deal in his ultimate yr at College School London. They launched two singles on London data that flopped within the UK. Hear to Extra to Lose and Bitter Heart at present and they may go for 80s synthpop classics. Once more, Gervais says he didn’t give it his greatest, and the band have been dropped. “You assume, ‘Fucking hell, that was it.’” He briefly managed Suede earlier than they hit the massive time, then settled for workplace life, working his means up to occasions supervisor on the College of London Union. He made intensive notes in regards to the daft conversations, annoying habits, petty jealousies, rivalries, egos and workplace romances.

In his subsequent job, on the London radio station Xfm – the place he was “head of speech” – he employed Stephen Service provider, 13 years his junior, as his assistant. Collectively, this odd couple (Gervais is a squat 5ft 8in, Service provider a lanky 6ft 7in) went on to create The Workplace with the assistance of the notes Gervais made within the earlier job. It’s such a superbly structured, spare piece of writing, I say. Did Service provider assist self-discipline you as a author? “No, The Workplace was the very first thing I’d ever tried my hardest at, and that was as a result of I assumed, ‘What a privilege to have a second chunk of the cherry.’” He pauses. “That’s a massive lesson I’ve discovered. Working more durable at one thing makes you higher at it.” Gervais is a grasp of stating the apparent as if it’s a pearl of knowledge.

With MacKenzie Crook in The Office.
With Mackenzie Criminal in The Workplace: ‘It was the very first thing I’d ever tried my hardest at.’ {Photograph}: BBC

I ask if his quest for kindness marks a change. “Kindness, compassion has undoubtedly been in my work of the final 10 years.” Then once more, he says, look again to The Workplace, and at coronary heart David Brent needed to do properly by individuals and be liked. “My stuff has at all times been fairly existential – are we losing our life? – by to Derek, which is about individuals on the finish of their life, by to After Life, which is about individuals shedding their life.”

In Derek, a mockumentary about life in a care house, Gervais performs the eponymous hero as a gurning simpleton whom all people loves. Though he denied that Derek was supposed to have disabilities, the sitcom triggered controversy. Opinion was divided amongst those that discovered it offensive over whether or not Gervais was mocking or sentimentalising individuals with particular wants.

The most important change since The Workplace, he says, is the rise of social media. “These days you hear everybody’s opinions. For those who go on Twitter for a day, you assume there’s a conflict going on, then you definitely go exterior for a stroll and nothing’s modified. Twenty years in the past, when you noticed one thing on TV you didn’t like, you’d choose up a pen and go: ‘Expensive BBC, I’m completely horrified … ’ Nah, fuck it.” He imitates anyone selecting up a pen, then placing it down as a result of it’s an excessive amount of effort. “Now you fireplace off a tweet and it makes the information. Twitter is like highway rage.”

It has to be stated that he can rage with the worst of them. In August, he wrote about a group of people that have been torturing and killing monkeys on digicam: “I’m so fucking indignant I don’t know what to do. I might actually kill the soiled, savage cunts that do that.” In the identical month, he tweeted in response to critics of Operation Ark, Pen Farthing’s mission to rescue animals from Afghanistan and convey them to the UK: “Expensive silly cunts saying we shouldn’t put animals earlier than individuals … ”

Social media, he suggests, is the nice equaliser. I assume he means that’s a good factor, however no: “Twitter permits narcissism as a result of it permits individuals to put in print and to publish alongside scientists and politicians their deeply held opinion. Like, I do a factor about save the rhino, and somebody at all times goes: ‘What in regards to the children in Syria?’ And I need to return: ‘What are you doing in regards to the children in Syria?’”

Ricky Gervais and the dog Anti
With After Life co-star Anti: ‘I’m portrayed as merciless and that I don’t care what individuals take into consideration me. It’s not true. I do care.’ {Photograph}: Jay Brooks/The Guardian

If Twitter infuriates him a lot, why doesn’t he get off it? “Advertising,” he says. It’s a sensible software for self-promotion. And, he provides, it’s a nice useful resource for humour. “As an observational comic you often have to go round prisons and asylums to meet the individuals I speak about, however now I can discover out the rating from my Hampstead mansion. Hehehehehehh!” He opens his mouth, shows the well-known fangs, and laughs like a hyena. So he actively seeks out the craziness? “Yeah, I’m going fishing. I generally put out a tweet that I do know goes to get me opinions. For instance, I did a tweet asking what’s the one factor you need to by no means make a joke about. I acquired a thousand replies, and each one was completely different and humorous.” What amused him, he says, is that every response was as pious because it was wrongheaded.

Gervais’s stance on acceptable topics for a joke is straightforward – something goes. In a democracy, he says, you have a proper to offend and be offended, however you don’t have the precise to outlaw subjects. The difficulty is, he says, some persons are not vivid sufficient to get his jokes; they confuse the topic with the goal. So, for instance, when he stated Caitlyn Jenner had not carried out a lot for girls drivers (Jenner had been concerned in an accident that resulted in a fatality), he wasn’t ridiculing trans girls, he was taking part in on the stereotype of dangerous girls drivers, he explains.

Immediately, Gervais is a polarising determine. On social media, half the posters deify him as a champion of free speech standing up to the tyrannies of wokedom, whereas the opposite half accuse him of selecting on the deprived and punching down. Each interpretations are flawed, he says. “I’m no one’s champion. Get a higher champion is what I’d say to anyone who thinks I’m their champion.” And if he isn’t dividing individuals, he protests, he isn’t doing his job correctly.

Gervais is actually glad to assault the highly effective. He has hosted the Golden Globes 5 occasions and by no means failed to offend Hollywood royalty. In 2020, he accused the celebs of enabling Harvey Weinstein by “appearing like they don’t see a factor”, and being so venal that if Isis began a streaming channel, they might name their agent. His act is uncomfortable, charmless, crude and brave. Because the digicam pans around the room, you may see the A-listers wincing.

What he doesn’t perceive is the criticism he will get for giving the celebs a robust time. “Do I pander to the 200 billionaires within the room or the 200 million individuals at house sitting of their pants consuming beer who aren’t profitable awards, who aren’t billionaires? It’s a no-brainer for a comic. I’m a jester. I play to the opposite peasants within the mud. I wasn’t entering into horrible. Consider the issues I might have stated.” He begins to give it the complete Joe Pesci as he works himself into a rage. “Consider the fucking horrible issues I might have joked about. It’s off the charts – It’s. Off. The. Charts – the horrible issues I might say.”

A second later, he’s calmly telling me of the followers he does have among the many glitterati. “Robert De Niro was simply crying with laughter once I made a joke about Hugh Hefner and his younger bride. He referred to as me after a week and stated: ‘I wanna say you probably did a nice job.’ ‘Oh man,’ I stated, ‘I irritated some individuals.’ He stated: ‘Fuck ’em, they have been jokes.’”

Earlier this yr, Ash Atalla, the producer of The Workplace, stated that a number of the jokes Gervais made about his incapacity left him feeling “a little bit uncomfortable”. On the British Comedy awards in 2001, Gervais stated that Atalla, who contracted polio as a youngster, was the present’s “runner”, referred to as him “my little wheelchair good friend”, and stated that he was “simply the identical as Stephen Hawking, however with out all of the intelligent stuff”. Gervais appears to be like shocked once I point out it. “Effectively if he’d stated to me on the time he was uncomfortable with it, I wouldn’t have carried out it. However he didn’t.” Atalla stated that comedians who emerged within the 00s, equivalent to Gervais, Jimmy Carr and Frankie Boyle would “see what you could possibly get away with and then reverse-intellectualise it”.

Ricky Gervais with the dog Anti, who plays Brandy in After Life
‘I’m offended on a regular basis. Every part offends me.’ {Photograph}: Jay Brooks/The Guardian

Gervais nonetheless does it at present. He tells me how he begins his newest reside present, SuperNature, with a lesson in irony. “I say, ‘That’s once I say one thing I don’t actually imply for comedian impact and you, as an viewers, snicker on the flawed factor as a result of you understand what the precise factor is.’ I problem them to be offended and they by no means are in fact, as a result of they get it.” Really, he says, if no one is offended, he’s failed. “You have to provoke! It’s a good factor. Studying provokes, science provokes, opinion provokes. Offence provokes.”

Is he typically offended? “Course I’m. I’m offended all of the fucking time. Every part offends me.” What like? “Actual issues, clearly. Not jokes or phrases or opinions. The very first thing that springs to thoughts is animal cruelty. However the whole lot. Stupidity.” Is it true that he finds noise offensive? Completely, he says. He offers me an instance. “I’m on a airplane. There’s a man there about my age, studying the paper. We’re about to take off, New York to London. Firstclass, so I had nothing to moan about. However he was doing this.” Gervais yawns loudly, and makes a smacking sound together with his lips. “I appeared a couple of occasions to ensure that there was nothing flawed with him, and he did it 10 occasions, and I went, ‘Sorry are you able to yawn with out all of the stuff after. And he went, ‘Oh sorry!’ And I assumed, ‘Fuck me, I’ve acquired to sit right here for an additional six hours.’ Hahahahahhaaaaa.” Once more the gnashers flash, and he’s laughing hysterically. However he means it.

Gervais prides himself on his intolerance. There’s the time he and his companion of 40 years, Jane Fallon, might hear their neighbours’ tv by the wall. “We might hear what the programme was. It was actually actually loud.” He makes clear the objection was his, not Jane’s. “Once more if it was a thunderstorm or herds of wildebeest or wolves, it wouldn’t hassle me, but when anyone’s acquired the telly on a bit loud, it’s like they’re doing it on objective. So I went spherical and knocked on the door, and this outdated woman answered and I stated, ‘Oh sorry, your telly’s very loud.’ She stated, ‘Oh sorry, I’m barely deaf,’ and I stated, ‘Oh sorry, don’t fear.’ As I went away, she stated, ‘And I hate to put on my listening to assist.’” He appears to be like as if he’s feeling the annoyance afresh in spite of everything these years. “I assumed, ‘Oh why did you inform me that?’”

I ask why he’s so obsessive about fats individuals. He appears to be like shocked, and says he’s not. Effectively, they’re so typically the goal of Tony’s abuse in After Life, I say, asking if he’s delicate about weight as a result of he’s been referred to as fats? He says that couldn’t be much less true. “I didn’t care about being fats once I was fats. And I nonetheless am a bit fats. Insults don’t imply something to me. I believe they’re humorous. If somebody genuinely tries to insult me, I snicker, as a result of how are you going to insult me? I’m too glad. You’ll be able to’t spoil my day by calling me one thing.” He says he and Jane couldn’t be extra content material. They don’t have youngsters, they have little to fear about, and they adore one another. After Life, which Gervais additionally directed, was partly impressed by excited about how meaningless life can be with out Jane.

That’s so fascinating, I say, since you don’t come throughout as a glad man. “I do know. I know.” You appear curmudgeonly, I say. “Folks assume I’m indignant on Twitter, and I’m by no means indignant.” He stops. Effectively, perhaps often he’s. He tells me how he can’t abide individuals crunching on apples or crisps. “Ugh, apples,” he says. “Apples have acquired the whole lot. Cos it’s the crunch, then the an excessive amount of within the mouth, then the sucking it in … I want to go for an additional wee. It’s an age factor.”

On his return, he appears to be like at his watch, says he can’t imagine the time, and he’s acquired to head off. “I suppose it was naive of me to assume we’d simply speak about After Life, wasn’t it? Did we point out it in any respect?” His temper appears to have modified. Earlier than he was grumpy humorous. Now he’s simply grumpy.

I ask why he not often offers interviews as of late. “I don’t like them. They provide me an excessive amount of nervousness. I’m not in management. I don’t know what you’re going to write. And I solely do it so somebody who hasn’t heard about After Life will watch the present. For those who didn’t write about After Life, this may be fucking pointless. It might solely be dangerous.” He’s speaking with such venom. I give him a look. “No, no. I don’t imply you. Don’t take it personally, however I wouldn’t do it, I wouldn’t come to spill my coronary heart out. I’ll learn it with nervousness. What’s he stated? What’s that come throughout like?’”

What is going to you are concerned about most? “Effectively, misinformation.” I’m nonetheless sitting on the desk and he’s hovering over me. “Misrepresentation. You being unfair. For those who learn a factor, it’s 50% flawed. I imply trivial issues. There may be the odd misquote, age flawed, the place I used to be born, considered one of my brothers’ names. You begin realising the whole lot’s 50% flawed”.

Years in the past, getting a good evaluate from a critic meant extra to him than a present being commercially profitable. Not any extra. “I’ve completely modified my thoughts. Completely modified my thoughts. Once you begin off, you have a look at each critic, each evaluate, the whole lot issues. Each dangerous one hurts you. However now, there’s a lot it doesn’t matter. There’s nobody critic, nobody paper – so the persons are larger.”

And that is the place social media – or at the very least his fanbase on social media – will get his approval. “That’s why I’m going direct to the individuals, as a result of I solely ever cared about criticism as a result of I assumed it might make my present higher. I solely cared about profitable Baftas as a result of I assumed individuals may watch the present. It was by no means about: ‘Guess what Jane? The critics love me.’ It was at all times about: will extra individuals watch the present, will I promote extra tickets?”

How does he assume he’s misrepresented by the media? “That I’m merciless and I don’t care what individuals take into consideration me. It’s not true. I do care what individuals take into consideration me.” If something, you’re thin-skinned, aren’t you? “Effectively. I believe it’s unjust. However then once more, I don’t care sufficient to go and inform the world. Within the early days, I simply thought if somebody slagged me off, ‘The place the fuck do they reside?’”

I remind him of the time Ian Hislop slammed his standup present Animals in 2003. After that, he completed every gig by calling Hislop an “ugly little pug-faced cunt”. Ah, Gervais says, however this was truly a intelligent joke quite than foul-mouthed retribution. “The joke was he stated that I used to be infantile and used playground insults, so then I do a infantile joke. I even referred to as him up to ask if he minded me saying that. And he stated, ‘Do what you need, however I simply need to say I’m a fan.’”

Ricky Gervais and the dog Anti
{Photograph}: Jay Brooks/The Guardian

I’m excited about what Gervais stated about me not taking his dislike of interviews personally. Really, it’s arduous to take something he says personally as a result of he doesn’t appear to do private. There’s been one thing unusual about our assembly, however I can’t fairly place what. Solely in direction of the tip, after we’ve been speaking for greater than 90 minutes, does it strike me that he has not used my title as soon as. Nor has he requested what it’s. In reality he’s not requested me a single factor. Most interviewees have interaction on a fundamental stage – the place have you come from at present, do you want your job, what do you consider this or that? Not Gervais, although. I don’t assume I’ve ever met anyone much less inquisitive about different individuals.

In After Life, Tony expresses his newfound kindness with dramatic gestures. Gervais doesn’t appear to realise kindness can be about little issues – studying a title, exhibiting an curiosity, making individuals really feel they matter, too. Maybe it’s all of a piece. Gervais’s later work has tended to deal extra with varieties than fleshed-out people – so individuals with studying disabilities like Derek are sweet-natured; individuals who have misplaced family members are damaged; Hollywood A-listers are hypocrites. Regardless of the sympathetic therapy of his newspaper employees in After Life, I sense he information journalists below “Bastards who get 50% flawed”.

I guarantee him I’ll point out After Life, and ask in regards to the allegations involving its producer Charlie Hanson. In Might, it was revealed that Hanson, a longtime Gervais collaborator, had been suspended by Netflix throughout filming of the third sequence after 11 girls made historic allegations of sexual misconduct, together with critical sexual assault, relationship from 2008 to 2015 (throughout which era Hanson produced Derek and Life’s Too Brief). Hanson has denied all of the allegations.

What affect has this had on Gervais and the present? “I acquired a name from Netflix saying there’s been allegations. They stated: ‘We’d like to ask Charlie not to are available in once more.’ I went: ‘OK. Proper.’ And that’s actually the final I heard about it.” It have to be devastating to hear these allegations about somebody you’ve labored with so intently for 16 years? “Yeah, yeah. It’s horrifying. I actually tried not to give it some thought in any respect. I don’t assume I ought to talk about it, as a result of I don’t know what’s taking place.” Has he spoken to Hanson about it? “No, no, in no way.” He appears to be counting on his fingers. “We’ve carried out 4 issues over 20 years, and he’s carried out, I don’t know, 100 different reveals, however clearly you’re anxious about that, too.” Really, Hanson has produced each Gervais sitcom other than The Workplace, and two of his films.

We head out of the massive, empty workplace on to the streets of Hampstead. It’s not sunny, however he places his Ray-Bans on – presumably as a disguise. Gervais appears to be like extra recognisable than ever. He stops on the street to proceed demonstrating why a joke from his 2011 Golden Globes speech was unfairly criticised. “I stated the Golden Globe for particular results goes to the individuals who airbrushed the Intercourse and the Metropolis poster. And I’m going: ‘Women, we all know how outdated you’re, considered one of you was in an episode of Bonanza!’” He may have made the joke 10 years in the past, however it nonetheless rankles that the forged confused the goal with the topic. “Kim Cattrall stated it was ageist. I stated: ‘No it’s the other. I’m saying, what’s flawed with being 50?’ I hate that about Hollywood, the place fucking George Clooney has to have a fucking 22-year-old girlfriend. Aaagh!”

A middle-aged man passes on the street. “And a very good joke it was too, Ricky,” he says. Gervais smiles. For the primary time all day, he appears to be like glad. Gervais tells me he’s crossing the highway right here, and earlier than I do know it he has disappeared into the gang.

The ultimate season of After Life will likely be out there on Netflix from 14 January

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